On this playful episode of 'Finding the Guardian of Your Soul,' join our spirited pair, Lisa and Benjamin Shield, as they unveil the whimsical secret to nurturing a flourishing relationship – humor! Dive into the romantic world where laughter reigns supreme, and discover why a giggle can be the golden key to a partner’s heart.
Lisa and Benjamin delve deep into the nuances of comedy in courtship, from the pitfalls of misused humor to the magnetic allure of kindness-infused jests. They share their own adventures, where chuckles have built bridges and forged lasting bonds – and even recount an enchanting vacation episode that touched the heart of a stranger amidst a personal storm.
In today's emotional dance, these love connoisseurs teach us how mirth and play are much more than mere acts of joy; they're threads that weave intimacy and trust in the fabric of togetherness. Learn how to sprinkle wit on serious moments, and why mirroring iconic spirits like Julia Child in living fun can be a breakthrough in love’s quest.
Lisa, in her ever-illuminating wisdom, offers a precious gift – the chance to access a transformative 45-minute presentation, along with a six-month journey designed to remodel lives.
For every soul seeking love out loud, for anyone yearning to attract delightful companionship, this is your clarion call to infuse playfulness into every romantic whisper. So pump up the volume and prepare to laugh your way to love's embrace with 'Finding the Guardian of Your Soul.'
Lisa Shield [00:00:02]:
Hello, everybody, and welcome to getting inside the right male mind. I'm Lisa Shield.
Benjamin Shield [00:00:08]:
And I'm Benjamin Shield.
Lisa Shield [00:00:10]:
And we are so happy to be able to spend this time with you today. We have a topic that I think is a lot of fun, and it's the secret to having great relationship ships, which is how to have those amazing rom.com conversations and great dates. Right. And great dates, too, which will lead to great relationships. We believe that humor is one of the most important aspects of any relationship. And if you're not laughing and having fun, what are you doing?
Benjamin Shield [00:00:48]:
I think except for very few occasions of special happenings in our lives, every day we've had laughter.
Lisa Shield [00:00:57]:
And even I remember when you and I wound up at the emergency when we went to Sedona. Do you remember? Benjamin got the most beautiful letter from one of the nurses there just saying that we had restored her faith and she had just recently gotten divorced or was going through a divorce. And she said that we had restored her faith in love and when she was ready, she was going to go out and look for her next partner. But, yeah, we were sitting and laughing and having a wonderful time. It wasn't how we expected to spend the vacation.
Benjamin Shield [00:01:43]:
No, but it was fun.
Lisa Shield [00:01:44]:
It was great. The vacation was just an excuse to spend some time together. And so we had a ball. And, yeah, I think we would remember that more than going for a hike or doing something else.
Benjamin Shield [00:01:59]:
Yeah. And I think when we all think back of our most memorable dates, it's the dates we've had deep communication, but also it's been laced with laughter and fun, creativity, spontaneity, just playfulness.
Lisa Shield [00:02:17]:
Well, and I think that what people don't realize is that you can be funny and deep at the same time with your humor. There is such depth to your humor that sometimes it's deeper than the deepest conversation. You can say more the other. I remember when we were just recently working on a project together, and we were walking back to the house and I said, thank you so much for helping me because it's so hard to be creative in a vacuum. And you said, you know, who else says that? And I said, no, who? And you said, dust. Dust. So I first want to start with, sometimes people will say, well, Benjamin's funny. Like, it's easy to be funny with him and have those rom.com conversations because he is so funny.
Lisa Shield [00:03:28]:
But I always say a lot of your former partners didn't find you funny.
Benjamin Shield [00:03:35]:
Right. And it made me less funny. There's no reason to try to be playful and funny if it's not coming back to you.
Lisa Shield [00:03:44]:
Yeah. There are women who you said earlier that you've gone on dates with that you just don't feel funny around them. Yeah.
Benjamin Shield [00:03:57]:
And the dates that I remember and the relationships that I remember are the ones where we've just had fun. It's been playful. There has been humor. And I have to say that humor builds trust and safety. It's like humor and playfulness and banter is the antithesis of not having trust and safety. You just build that connection. And when I think of all the relationships, all the dates I've been on, the most memorable ones, and the ones that I smile about, the ones where we've smiled a lot.
Lisa Shield [00:04:39]:
Which is funny because you were so serious on our first date.
Benjamin Shield [00:04:42]:
Well, I think on a first date, the most important thing a man could do is prove he's not an axe murderer. But also, I think I was careful just to see if playfulness would come back because I didn't want to seem like, just, like, insincere cracking jokes and having fun if you were a deathly serious person. But right away when we were talking about what we were looking for, you said, well, you know, and I'm paraphrasing. I've done a lot of work, and I'm ready to meet a great guy and have fun. That's when I took my profile down.
Lisa Shield [00:05:27]:
Right. That same night, I realized that I had been taking. I've always had a wonderful sense of humor, but I realized that for so long, I had been taking life so seriously. And I thought that having connection meant that I would have these very deep, serious, intense conversations with someone. And suddenly I realized that I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to be deep and serious and intense all the time. That that just wasn't a fun way to be. And I also had a friend at the time who was very playful and a lot of fun to be around.
Lisa Shield [00:06:16]:
And I watched how men responded to her playfulness and her humor and how attractive that was. I also saw how she would attract the attention of great men because she was so playful and that my seriousness was not very alluring to men. So it was like a light bulb had gone off for me, and I just decided that I didn't want to take life seriously. I'm still a very deep person. I don't think I lack depth. I don't think I live on the surface of things. But it's a choice to be positive and have humor, and I'm enjoying life. So much more this.
Lisa Shield [00:07:08]:
Yeah. So let's talk about. I'm sure women want to know, but they're saying, I go out on these dates and the guys just aren't funny and we don't click. And if there is a really funny guy, well, then I feel that connection. But if the man isn't funny, I don't feel funny. So can you speak to that, honey?
Benjamin Shield [00:07:37]:
Well, it's miserable to be with someone, no matter how interesting, how accomplished, how sensitive, all of those things. If there's no humor, it's missing a main component.
Lisa Shield [00:07:57]:
What if the guy isn't funny? What if you go on a date and the guy just isn't funny?
Benjamin Shield [00:08:04]:
Well, ideally, the other person would be somewhat playful, not overly playful. So it's too goofy. But just to see if. Well, maybe he's very serious that night. Maybe he wants to impress you. Maybe he's afraid of cracking a joke and having it fallen, having him fall in his face and really not knowing you sitting across from him at the table. So if the woman could show some, a little bit of humor, a lightness of playfulness, and see if that elicits something in him.
Lisa Shield [00:08:41]:
And how would she do that?
Benjamin Shield [00:08:43]:
Well, she could just first smile, lean in, wink occasionally. I think laughing is the best entry into playfulness.
Lisa Shield [00:08:57]:
Or maybe tell a funny story about something that happened during the day or something. Just light hearted.
Benjamin Shield [00:09:08]:
A lightness of being.
Lisa Shield [00:09:09]:
Yeah. And I think that a lot of women, myself included, have felt this pressure that, to be flirtatious in the way that we watched other women, like growing up, our girlfriends, and being provocative. I mean, when I think of flirtation, I think of a little bit of game playing. I know it's not always intended that way, but when I think of being flirtatious in the way I saw women being that way growing up, I saw it as sexually provocative, leading men on gameiness. There was a manipulation to it.
Benjamin Shield [00:09:56]:
Well, the difference is that that provocative behavior is a behavior. It's a performance where playfulness is just the opposite. It's not a performance. It's all the performance barriers drop and it's just two people having fun. It's almost like two puppies on a date where they're just meeting each other and beginning to play and wrestle and they have a great time.
Lisa Shield [00:10:24]:
Yeah. How are some ways that a woman could be played? I mean, I think one of the things that I did when I was dating, because I had been so serious and so intense, was that I made a decision to be playful and to not let conversations get heavy or deep. It doesn't mean that I couldn't have a deep conversation. I actually was great at that, but I stopped. I would not go into that. So I had ways of diverting the conversation into more playful territory. Like one of the things that I do, because I'm not funny or comical. I'm not witty like you are.
Lisa Shield [00:11:20]:
I don't know too many people who are honestly just so everybody, like, I have an iPhone full. My notes folder on my iPhone is full of all the jokes that Benjamin makes. I write them down so that we don't forget them because they're so funny. But I'm more of a sidekick, and I know that I have adopted my role as a sidekick, and I'm very proud of it. But I know how to egg you on, and I can be very ironic. Like, you'll say something, and I'll say, like, what's up with that? Or where did you get that from? But I'll make a funny, or I'll answer a question with a question that will egg you on, rather than know going directly into a very serious conversation.
Benjamin Shield [00:12:19]:
And I think an important thing is that you laugh at my talking. We were talking to someone from Los Angeles or who had lived in Los Angeles. They know in Los Angeles, if someone tells you someone a joke, instead of laughing, they say, that's so funny.
Lisa Shield [00:12:36]:
Yes, they do. I thought that was, you know, actually.
Benjamin Shield [00:12:43]:
Genuinely laughing and enjoying. It makes another person feel safe to take chances.
Lisa Shield [00:12:53]:
Humor and playfulness. Yeah. And I think that one of the problems is where we stop ourselves from being playful, is that when we feel nervous or we really like somebody, we're very attracted to that person. We get in our heads and we start overthinking things. We feel nervous, and then we want to say the right thing, and all the spontaneousness goes out the window like that. Flow. Because life is an improv. It's like improvisation is a wonderful thing.
Lisa Shield [00:13:30]:
If somebody feels too stiff, there are.
Benjamin Shield [00:13:33]:
Improv classes, and that's why interview questions on a date be a death. Kneel.
Lisa Shield [00:13:40]:
Yes. Still defying you?
Benjamin Shield [00:13:42]:
Still defying. Because there's no playfulness in what kind of job do you have and how far are you from work? And do you rent or own or. There's no playfulness in that.
Lisa Shield [00:13:56]:
Well, and I actually encourage women, if a man is asking you those kinds of questions, you can also come back with a little bit of a light hearted, playful response rather than just answering those questions. If somebody said to me, what do you do for a living? I could come up with a playful comeback to that, like, oh, my God, where do I start?
Benjamin Shield [00:14:30]:
When I'm at a party, like a cocktail party, and I really don't want to talk about what I do, because it's what I do every day. And what do you do for a living? I'm an auditor for the internal Revenue service. And tell me, what do you do for a living? And suddenly they migrate towards the onion dip.
Lisa Shield [00:14:56]:
Right? But I was listening to something. What was I listening to? And somebody asked about what this person did, and she was like, oh, I'm a pole dancer. What do you do? It was meant to be playful and fun rather than something that was just this serious conversation. So you can bring some playfulness and humor. You don't have to go into serious conversations, even if the person across from you is asking you serious questions. So you can just test the waters a little bit and be fun. See? Take a little bit of a to say, oh, I'm a pole dancer. You should see my move, and then see how the guy responds.
Lisa Shield [00:16:00]:
Right? And some of you would say, oh, my God, I couldn't say something like that, because then he'd think, I want to have sex with him or something. That's not true.
Benjamin Shield [00:16:12]:
But if there's humor with it, right? And I think one of the things that, just as a warning, that if one of the people at the table says a joke that you may not get or you may take seriously, the worst thing you could do is to try to analyze a joke, right? What did you mean by that? And when you said this, it's just like, you just want to put napkins together and make a noose.
Lisa Shield [00:16:43]:
See? There you go. Oh, my God. So some things you can do, like, if somebody starts says, well, what do you do for a living? You could jokingly say, well, I'll tell you what I do if you tell me what you do. So even something like that can be playful. And first of all, it's provocative, it's teasing, and you're answering a question with a question. And that's another way of being playful.
Benjamin Shield [00:17:21]:
I'll show you my score if you show me yours.
Lisa Shield [00:17:24]:
Exactly. I'll show you my portfolio if you show me yours. Right. So you can take very classic funny statements and make them into playful, joking, teasing answers. One of the things that we always suggest our clients do, and it works 90% of the time, when they want to get a man on a zoom call, a phone call, or get them from a phone call to a date, we will have them say, what's a girl like me got to do to get a phone call from a guy like you? Or what's a girl like me got to do to get a date with a guy like you? And so that is a very playful, provocative way of getting a man to take the lead and also letting him know that you're playful. It's a very playful, teasing kind of response.
Benjamin Shield [00:18:35]:
And playfulness and banter and laughing is so important on a date, because if you're looking for a life partner, whether it's a life partner, marriage, whatever it may look like, and the other person is also, you're both looking for someone that you're going to enjoy life with. And that first date, or the first two dates, because sometimes the first date, you're both nervous, but early on, you both need to know that this is someone that I'm going to have fun with. And these dates, these early dates are the entry to how someone's going to see the future.
Lisa Shield [00:19:14]:
Right. And they set the tone for the whole relationship. I just finished watching a Netflix series called one day, and there were so many wonderful things about that show. I highly recommend it, although it's a real tear jerker. But the relationship between the two lead characters, the romantic relationship, is so beautiful, so nuanced, and the two leads are outstanding. But what was beautiful was, from the very beginning, their playfulness, how much they laughed. That playful connection, that is something that is so beautiful to find. And they were friends for probably 75% of the relationship.
Lisa Shield [00:20:19]:
They just remained dear friends, but the humor was always there. And you saw the male lead and her as well, having other relationships, but they weren't laughing with those other people. They were not laughing. It wasn't playful. And they were always drawn to each other because they got each other. They could be themselves together. They didn't have to put on a pretense or be serious all the time. And they just really got each other.
Lisa Shield [00:20:54]:
And there was a way that they let their guard down around each other.
Benjamin Shield [00:20:58]:
And there's a connection, because I think all of us want to be with a partner, that if we're at the party, a party, and the partner is on the other side of the room, we just give a look, we know.
Lisa Shield [00:21:09]:
What the other one's thinking, and you.
Benjamin Shield [00:21:11]:
Both start laughing, because it's that connection of humor and understanding combined.
Lisa Shield [00:21:19]:
Yeah. And it's such a beautiful thing. So you have to test that. And sometimes, like with our date, and I remember a very dear girlfriend of mine who's now married. She's been married for a long, long time. And she called me after her first date with this man, and she said, I really liked him, but he was so serious, and she laughed a lot. She's very playful. She has a lightness of being, and he is a heavier person by nature.
Lisa Shield [00:21:57]:
But I just told her about our first date, and I said Benjamin was quite serious on our first date, and he's the funniest person I've ever met in my life. So we've even gone out to dinner with a well known comic, a very well known comedian, and you were the one that was making all the jokes at the table.
Benjamin Shield [00:22:20]:
We sat next to two famous comedians.
Lisa Shield [00:22:23]:
Oh, my God. They were not funny at all.
Benjamin Shield [00:22:26]:
We were laughing, having a great time.
Lisa Shield [00:22:28]:
Oh, my God.
Benjamin Shield [00:22:29]:
These are about as famous of comedians as you.
Lisa Shield [00:22:32]:
Yeah.
Benjamin Shield [00:22:33]:
And there was nothing funny about.
Lisa Shield [00:22:38]:
No, no. And the funniest thing was, I accidentally, Benjamin was parking the car, and I went in early, and this was one of those, you know, West Hollywood restaurants where the tables know about two inches apart. And I thought I was doing such a beautiful, graceful job of sliding in between these tables. And then little did my purse, my handbag, my shoulder bag, I guess, swung forward and knocked the champagne, the glass of champagne onto this comedian's lap. And it was so funny. And then I looked up, and I saw who it was. And then I looked over at the person sitting across from him, and I was like, oh, my God, of all the people. But, yeah, they were so serious.
Lisa Shield [00:23:31]:
It was really very kind. No, very kind. Very understanding, but not funny. Yeah, not funny at all. You don't have to be a comedian. I know. I'm not. I don't consider myself witty.
Lisa Shield [00:23:51]:
Although once in a while, we have a bed spread that's seen better, Jay.
Benjamin Shield [00:23:57]:
Because if we have a 120 pound dog and a 65 pound dog.
Lisa Shield [00:24:01]:
Well, and it also got washed in the washing machine when it was supposed to be dry clean. But we've had it for about seven or eight years, I think. Yeah, it's beautiful. And now it's, like, really coming apart. We've ordered a new one. We're just waiting for it to arrive. But one day recently, our charpet jumped up on it, and I said, everybody on the bed, which is what we say to our dogs. And then this time, I said, everybody on the shred, which is very funny because the whole thing is shredded.
Lisa Shield [00:24:37]:
But that would be my one year joke.
Benjamin Shield [00:24:41]:
You come up with them once in.
Lisa Shield [00:24:44]:
A while, but nothing like you. Nothing like you.
Benjamin Shield [00:24:49]:
The bottom line is that humor builds connection, and it could build it in the first few seconds, just with a smile, a laugh, leaning forward, a wink. Just how we interact with the waiter waitress that comes to the table.
Lisa Shield [00:25:11]:
Yeah. We have a new woman in our mastermind. And the thing with her is that while she's not funny, she has this twinkle in her eye and laughter in her voice, and it's magical. There's something quite magical about her.
Benjamin Shield [00:25:36]:
There is?
Lisa Shield [00:25:37]:
Yeah. A man would be so drawn to that. It's almost like I said to her the other day, that she has a little bit of a, you know, playfulness in her voice and in her tone and that glint in her eye. Right.
Benjamin Shield [00:25:57]:
Julia Child was funny, but she wasn't classically funny. I mean, she didn't tell know, she didn't do practical jokes. She lived fun.
Lisa Shield [00:26:11]:
Yes, she really did.
Benjamin Shield [00:26:13]:
And that's what a man would love to see in a woman, someone who doesn't just come up with jokes, but who lives fun. And again, it doesn't mean that life is going to be superficial, but it means that deeper things could be spoken about freely, whether it's heavy or lightly. But if you know that there can be humor there, and it's not just all heavy, heavy, heavy. You could just imagine people reading the New York Times or C, Fox News or MSNBC, whatever it might be, and then they just talk about all the horrible things. Or we can just kind of, it's not going to change anything. So we could just make things a little bit lighter. If there's a politician that we're not fond of, we just will say, he's adorable. We could say so many other things.
Lisa Shield [00:27:19]:
But.
Benjamin Shield [00:27:22]:
It just lightens the room and everyone knows what we mean.
Lisa Shield [00:27:28]:
Right.
Benjamin Shield [00:27:29]:
But it's just a lightness of being and it makes the day brighter.
Lisa Shield [00:27:37]:
Well, and there's so much in life that we don't have control over, but we do have control over how we choose to see things and how we choose to be with each other. One thing I do want to talk about is that sometimes women will say to us, oh, but I'm so playful and I can go head to head and toe to toe with these guys. And we have a woman that we're working with, and she is an amazing woman. There's so many just incredible things about her. But there is something that is not quite working for her in her dating life. And I was on a call with her a few days ago last week, and we were talking about her kind of playfulness, her brand of playfulness. And some very successful masculine women can be quite savvy and witty and all. But there's not a sweetness, there's not a femininity in the way that they play.
Lisa Shield [00:28:52]:
It almost feels like a competition. Well, I can one up you. I can go head to head and toe to toe with you.
Benjamin Shield [00:29:01]:
This may be an esoteric reference because it's long before most of our times, but the table at the, with, like Dorothy Parker and some of the others that were incredibly, I mean, they would come up with the most amazing quotes that are re quoted to this day. But were they fun people? Would you want to actually have dinner with them? Just sit down and have a meal with them? Probably not, right?
Lisa Shield [00:29:34]:
Or you could be like, intelligentsia and be witty on that level. We were watching that Truman Capote. We had to turn it off. But it was mean spirited, which we should have expected, by the way. But there's this level of wit and whatever that can be superior. That isn't necessarily funny. And you have to be, by the way, extremely careful. It is good to use a bit of teasing or challenges, but you can challenge a man in a playful way.
Lisa Shield [00:30:25]:
You can tease a man playfully, but you have to be very careful that it's not shaming or cutting or mean or demeaning. And some women can also think that they're being witty or playful, and it's really mean. It's very important. I was talking to this woman because she's in our mastermind, and I was talking to her about the women, all of the women in our mastermind who have found the guardians of their souls. And I was listing off all of the women who have been successful. And we all know the women who have been challenged and have not found the guardians of their souls, and the ones who have, and what all the women who had found their soulmates, the guardians of their souls. All of those women were feminine. They were sweet, they were playful.
Lisa Shield [00:31:36]:
There was a kindness, there was a girlishness about them, and that was so attractive. Even the most successful, outgoing Wheeler dealer, once she let go of some of that facade and really stepped into her feminine nature, she wound up with the most wonderful man. She stopped trying to seal the deal, and she just really allowed this man to come forward. It took him a while with some of these men that the women are with. Not all of them, but some of them. Some of them have been very damaged and wounded in their relationships with women who were not nice to them, who were not kind. And so it took almost like you used the analogy of a stray dog, or what was it that you used where she had to give him a chance just to feel safe with her again. And then once he did, now it's like they are the most adorable.
Lisa Shield [00:33:06]:
She's a very outwardly, this one woman I'm thinking of is a very affectionate, outgoing, public displays of affection kind of woman. And he wasn't. And now she brought him to life and he's really loving it. And he said, look, just, I appreciate you being so patient, but she's so playful that she's really coaxed him out.
Benjamin Shield [00:33:35]:
I want to go back on something that you touched upon is that humor shouldn't be shameful.
Lisa Shield [00:33:42]:
Right.
Benjamin Shield [00:33:43]:
Because there could be a lot of funny things that could be shaming. And a guy isn't going to remember the humor. He's going to remember being shamed, being belittled. And so whether it's a nickname or just kind of making fun of if he dropped his fork on the floor at the restaurant or whatever it may have been, that we have to be very careful about not shaming each other with our humor.
Lisa Shield [00:34:16]:
Right. And especially in front of other people.
Benjamin Shield [00:34:18]:
Especially. Oh, my goodness. And it would be a deal breaker to do it in front of colleagues.
Lisa Shield [00:34:26]:
Teasing a man about something that you think is cute, especially in front of other people, would be humiliating for a man.
Benjamin Shield [00:34:36]:
And sometimes humor can come from anger, and so it could be kind of sharp humor. So there's a big difference between that and playfulness.
Lisa Shield [00:34:47]:
Yeah. You always want to lift your guy up in front of other people and really, like, you want other men to be walking away saying, wow, I wish my wife talked about me that way. Yeah. Well, I think that we covered it.
Benjamin Shield [00:35:06]:
And had fun doing it.
Lisa Shield [00:35:09]:
I don't know what else to say. I think that we need to have fun. When you can show a man that you're light and playful, it shows a man your personality. It shows him the kind of woman you are and what he's signing up for. And trust me, one of the things I knew when I met you was that I was going to mess up. I just knew that. And so I decided that I was just going to give myself permission to do that and to give you permission to be human. And that that was so much easier than trying to hold myself to this ideal and be perfect or to hold you to some ideal.
Benjamin Shield [00:36:00]:
And there were moments where, let's say that you messed up just for sake.
Lisa Shield [00:36:07]:
Of argument, like I never really have.
Benjamin Shield [00:36:08]:
But if there is humor, it was actually to lighten the situation, not to shame. So where both of us laugh and suddenly it's not sweating the small stuff.
Lisa Shield [00:36:22]:
Yeah, there's a sweetness to that. There really is. And it creates beautiful memories. That's why when I write down those jokes that you make, I also write down, I try to write down the situation, like, where we were when that joke was made, like on Holbosch island or out to dinner on Valentine's Day. I'll give you all a great example of Benjamin's humor. One of my favorite jokes was that we were at Valentine's Day at this beautiful restaurant in Los Angeles. It was very early on, maybe our first Valentine's Day together. And there was a fixed price menu.
Lisa Shield [00:37:04]:
And the waiter. I was not drinking alcohol at that time. And Benjamin, it was a fixed price dinner that came with endless champagne. And the waiter came to the table with the bottle of champagne to refill our glasses. And I was having sparkling water, so you couldn't tell if it was champagne or what. And he went to fill my glass, and Benjamin put his hand over it and said, no, I'm going to get her hydrated and take her home and take advantage of her. And I just thought, okay, this is my guy. Or we had Bernie's mountain dog, our very first one.
Lisa Shield [00:37:50]:
We're on our third now, or 4th? 4th, third.
Benjamin Shield [00:37:55]:
And with Annie, who I had, well, Jonah. Jonah Cosmo. Oh, our fourth.
Lisa Shield [00:38:00]:
Our fourth. Bernie's mountain dog. But this was Jonah. And Jonah had a habit of, like, some dogs drinking out of the toilet. And actually, Benjamin trained him to do this before I was on the. You know, we were just hanging out together. And Jonah got up and was heading toward the bathroom, and Benjamin looked at him and said, jonah, don't you want to talk to your sponsor before you take that first drink? So just, like, you know, brought such humor into our lives, into my life and this relationship, these last almost 22 years have been more fun than any two people could ever have hoped for or imagined. And it has been truly the icing on the cake and has made this relationship so beautiful.
Lisa Shield [00:39:10]:
So I would wish romcom conversations for every single one of you. We send you our love. Thank you so much for spending this time with us. We look forward to seeing you again soon. Please come back and see us. I have another broadcast called finding the Guardian of your soul. And I do getting inside the right male mind with Benjamin. You will find all of this under our podcast, finding the guardian of your soul.
Lisa Shield [00:39:44]:
So all of these episodes are there. You can send your ideas for future broadcasts to podcast at Lisa Shield.com. And you can also book a call with a member of my team you can do that by going to Lisashield Comreserve and that will take you to my booking page. So if you want to talk to a member of our team about how we can help you find one of these, we can help you do that. We've done it for thousands of women and we can do this for you too. If you have not watched my presentation, I have a free 45 minutes presentation and you can see that by going to lisashield.com and clicking the button all over the page. You can also find all of our podcast episodes on my website as well as success stories from hundreds of our clients. On our success stories page we teach a six month course.
Lisa Shield [00:41:19]:
It is amazing. We will change your lives. I do not think there is a better program out there, so please check us out if you really want to get this solved. Thank you again for joining us. I'm Lisa Shield.
Benjamin Shield [00:41:33]:
And I'm Benjamin Shield.
Lisa Shield [00:41:34]:
And we look forward to seeing you next time. Bye.